Raising Cannabis Capital 0089: Process Systems & Design

To keep up with demand for CBD and other compounds extracted from the cannabis plant, companies must transition from processing batch to batch to continuously processing.  Inventor John Sullivan from Process Systems & Design has created the robotics that links all equipment necessary to fully automate; enabling facilities to process over 2,000 pounds per hour.  John speak to Dan Humiston about applying his experience in the candy industry and Nascar racing to help improve the cannabis industry.

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John Sullivan:
So when the truck backs up to the loading dock he drops a slide. Oh OK. It goes to an older system. There's a certain badge change down to our ball down and then it goes into a machine that cycles 75 minutes a certain amount of product you know over an hour's time that can be up to 2000 pounds on the sheet.

Dan Humiston:
Welcome to the M.J. bulls podcast a show about Raising Cannabis Capital.

Dan Humiston:
I'm Dan Humiston not today show how this inventor of the world's most popular cotton candy in NASCAR instruments has linked and coordinated all the equipment to enable large scale continuous extraction.

Dan Humiston:
Today in the Raising Cannabis Capital series we are joined by John Sullivan the vice president of product development for Process Systems designs dot com. John welcome to the MJBulls podcast.

John Sullivan:
Good afternoon. Great to be with you.

Dan Humiston:
John. Another example of someone whose background wouldn't necessarily lead us to believe you'd wind up in cannabis but here you are. I was reading through your bio and I'm gonna let you fill in the gaps but the best part about it I think is you invented fluffy stuff which is the number one selling cotton candy in the world. Tell us a little bit about that.

John Sullivan:
So at the time I was working at Georgetown University School of Medicine developing medical products and I developed a personal item on bypass machine for instance that my sister had a little supply company she came to be one day she said hey Lehman Brothers one of my customer wants you to sell off and you can't carnage. And I said Well you know how do we know what that is. But similarly she I'll take a look at it. So over time I say automated it and eventually developed a robot started in my basement. And years later he built a factory. MAXINE Now I'm in 22 countries and the number one song probiotic cotton candy in the world. Since you were born in 2000 I stayed on as the vice president there for a couple of years. From there I moved on to the next invention which basically was electronic instruments I was trying to develop a hydrogen recovery system for vehicles and engines only about 20 30 percent efficient. Most that's gone out the exhaust pipe so if you're going to reclaim that she can convert it into hydrogen but I need to talk. So I developed this electronic controller and realized that patents might work for electronics and racing. So I did a Hail Mary and just sent out a PDA saying to all of these teams and I got a call somebody called Hendrick Motorsports at the time I really didn't know I couldn't remember who Hendrick Motorsports Well let's take the property for zero for 24 really likes your gauges and I'm kind of playing a 24. Jeff and I said Look Who's Jeff. He goes you know the guy on a passing machine joke or he wants you dead. That's it. OK. So next thing you know I'm down at the Daytona 500 but engages in Jeff Jimmie Johnson and they're on US car. There was a huge success and a sold out to my competitor auto meter. It was a fun story and his book was a wonderful experience.

Dan Humiston:
You've lived your dream twice to back to markets are awesome. And along the way I see you have over 50 U.S. patterns.

John Sullivan:
Yeah I guess you could say I'm an inventor. This is something that I was born to do when I was a little kid. Anytime I had a screwdriver and a pair of pliers my hand I was at a junkyard looking for trash take a badge and a TV trying to figure out how they worked right back a piece of equipment only a couple of years later my mother the college under guard to peddle that submarine. So I had very tolerant parents that let me just run wild on trying to understand science and I've always been interested in science and technology it's always been a passion of mine that I can never get enough of it into this cannabis space within the last year. And it was pretty obvious to me that most of the processes were very labor intensive very batch oriented and typically when you're running batch you don't necessarily get the type of repeatability that you'd like to see. If you want to continue this operation if you haven't a robotics background I looked at the technology and realized that it has to be a better way. So no less so much what I've done is put together teams of different pieces of equipment that I needed to put a process together in which I could design at least 2000 pounds our flower using alcohol extraction and then be able to cover that you should repeat we should repeat that because 2000 pounds of flour per hour is unheard of.

Dan Humiston:
That's amazing.

John Sullivan:
So in order to do that what you need is a continuous flow. And so the process that I put together basically takes some of the largest manufacturers in the world and I put all the pieces equipment together but I control them with the computer. So when the truck backs up to the loading dock it drops a slough off it goes in an order system and a certain batch changes to it down in Chile up or down and then it goes into a machine that cycles every five minutes a certain amount of priority over it over an hour's time that can be up to 2000 pounds per machine. And so that slowly goes out of our machine right into a molecule into another machine. The follow up to the final product so nobody touches this product and I think of course it's all done by computers so you can change your recipe change your batch cycle time based on different types of plants and configurations so you have complete control of the process well and then the goal was you were working on were you to the very end. You've got this biomass. How do you take the last little bit of alcohol out of it so it's not a hazardous waste. Well we're looking to do is actually pressurize it one more time under a hydraulic crusher squeeze the last little bit of alcohol the in that until it ties it so it can be made into a burning product that we could then generate electricity to run the plant. That's our long term goal.

Dan Humiston:
So that's like from the time it arrived at the loading dock. Until it leaves nobody touches it and completely reused. I can see where this is going to be a new big demand. Big demand.

John Sullivan:
Well we're looking at is with this farm bill that just got passed. How do you know these people have thousands and thousands of acres and so there's no way you can bash that. You have to have it. Well players and we're talking to you right now are that big hat guys as low as cannabis players as well because they don't have the same problem that is is that there's only so much you can batch to keep adding children and machines that which have a lot more bodies such as machines and liability associated with people pulling out heavy objects out of tanks. So by having the same fully automated. You don't have those issues. We have server control machines that are in sync with each other.

John Sullivan:
And in times with each other. So we know exactly which means is doing so I can hit one button and the plant shut it down.

Dan Humiston:
Well it's really you're really just taking what we're doing to the very next level in the fire bill is just ramping everything up because the scale assist increased. I want to take a minute to remind all of our listeners about a new podcast produced by MJBulls Media Hemp Barons is a weekly show about the company's products and entrepreneurs who are using this amazing plant to create and improve the products we use every day. You can listen to Hemp Barons every Tuesday on Apple iTunes Stitcher Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts from in order to continue this process.

Dan Humiston:
This is very expensive upfront costs for you to build all this out. Are you looking for partners or how do you plan to grow this.

John Sullivan:
Know we provide right now as a service with the equipment. And what we've done is actually partners with other companies that have the various pieces equipment that we need so we can put together a team of multiple companies within our group that can come in to a large facility. And each person has responsibility within their group of making sure that there is one process. So you have the extractor and then from there goes the evaporator then it goes the. And each one of those have been properly size for how much alcohol you're running through this process and how much you do evaporate. We realize that that's more than just a one shot deal I know there's a lot of people trying to say we do it all. So we said well let's not do that. We don't have a strategy. Let's let me just put a team together. The same where you'd put a football team together you need certain players to do certain positions and be really good at. And so that's what we've done is put this team together of qualified manufacturers that have been doing this for some time and they have an expertise in what they do. So we asked the client what is the long term goal and how many pounds per day or per hour are they looking to be able to run through the process and then develop assisting those 28 head round so as not to grow they had another shift or they can add another machine that we typically can't get them not had them that they can run and get an oil lie that's reasonable because of the fact that it's so efficient.

Dan Humiston:
Are you guys raising capital for this.

John Sullivan:
No. Most of the people that we're working of have their own crowd. So what we do is provide this turnkey operation to come in and solve this go through operation. Most of the clinics that we're talking to are well funded or they're seeking funding. We have this business plan of having this complete high capacity for Casey and that type of catching is that it takes up a lot of time. It also takes a lot of overhead and automation it's a little bit more expensive up front but you return on investment it's much faster.

Dan Humiston:
Well we've been speaking with John Sullivan from Process Systems Design dot.com and all of their information is on the MJBulls Web site. John thanks for being on the show today and thanks for explaining all this to us. I have a feeling that you're going to be very busy over the next few months getting this system in a lot of different places. Good luck.

John Sullivan:
Thank you very much. I look forward to it. I appreciate your opportunity.

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